Summing up
It’s tempting, with a club the size of Manchester United, to take any beating they take to be all about them rather than their opponents, so we should start by homing in on Spurs, who did everything right today - composed, slick, confident and benefiting hugely from Son returning, and straight away returning to his best in an irresistible attacking combination with Harry Kane.
But you can’t escape the fact that Manchester United were a listless shambles, particularly at the back, where Harry Maguire, Eric Bailly and Luke Shaw had particularly horrific afternoons. The whole game was a reminder of just how far behind the title contenders they are.
There’ll be lots more fallout from this for sure. But I’m signing off now - stay on the site for more reaction and analysis, and thanks for all your many emails and Tweets, only a fraction of which I could show the light of day to. Bye.
Some serious United discontent in the Sky studio: “I almost feel like resigning from now because I know you have to have some filter when you speak on TV but that was a shambles. I feel like every United fan right now. What about the board … what’s going on with my club. I’m really emotional right now.”
And here’s Jamie Jackson’s match report:
Harry Kane speaks: “We got off to the worst possible start but we felt good before the game and in the warmup and the reaction showed that. The sending off changed it a bit but we still had to take our chances. Making sure we got no men sent off ourselves and took our chances. We were ruthless after that.”
Solskjær is having a few words, through a rictus-grin, with the officials as they go off, but he’ll know that the sending-0ff wasn’t the main problem for him here. And United fan Kevin Wilson has a few words about him here, more in sorrow than anger: “Managers rarely do the honourable and right thing these days but it might be best all round for Ole to quit after this game. He doesn’t deserve this. His time in charge has been mixed, some highs and some lows, but I’d rather his reputation stayed as a Man Utd legend rather than someone who presided over what could be a dreadful season before being fired. It’s not his fault that Woodward lets him down continuously or that players with international level reputations like Maguire and Pogba sabotage their own team constantly.”
Full-time: Manchester United 1-6 Tottenham
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90 mins+1: Pogba goes on a meandering run, eventially hitting a cul-de-sac in the Spurs area. Hey ho.
90 mins: HPogba flicks a neat through ball into the area for Rashford who has to go out left to play it back in, and the attack peters out. Three minutes of added time will be played.
89 mins: Moura causes more problems on a marauding raid through the middle, winning a free-kick. Spurs keep the ball some more, playing out time for fun. Where will Bale slot into this team?
87 mins: Spurs have scored 13 goals in the past four days. He’s a dour one, that Mourinho.
85 mins: Shaw brings down Moura in cynical fashion, poleaxing him from behind after he gets past him on the Spurs right. Shaw is booked, could have got worse than that. More meriting of a red than Martial’s.
83 mins: Man Utd win a corner on the right, decently delivered, and bobs around the six-yard box before Spurs clear.
81 mins: A small goalmouth scrap-ette in the Spurs penalty area, but it never really looked like yielding a goal for United. “Pathetic,” thunders Gary Neville
80 mins: A smirk from Mourinho, a moody stare into the middle-distance from Solskjær. There’s going to be LOTS of fall-out from this. And the phrase Crisis Club will doubtless be insensitively thrown around at a time when half the football pyramid fears for its very existence.
Goal! Man Utd 1-6 Spurs (Kane, 79pen)
Kane spanks it to De Gea’s right and beyond him. The joy of six etc
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Penalty for Spurs!
77 mins: Davies sashays into the box, skips one challenge and is felled by a grounded Pogba on the second.
76 mins: Hojbjerg, who’s been busy and effective in the middle wins possession again to set up Moura for a shot that’s blocked, but it prefaces another long period of Spurs possession, which ends when – at last - Maguire wins a battle with a Spurs forward.
73 mins: The excellent Son has done his work on his return, and he goes off for Ben Davies. Not a like-for-like replacement but no big deal at this stage.
71 mins: Close! Another swift Spurs break, Hojbjerg intercepting on halfway, laying off to Son, who plays in Kane for a low shot turned round for a corner, which Alli heads over.
69 mins: A bit niggly at the moment, Pogba and Sissoko tangling, as Spurs make another sub, Dele Alli (remember him?) on for Ndombele
68 mins: Another United sub, Greenwood off for Van de Beek, who many wanted to start, though whether he’d have had much impact given the shambolic defence behind him is open to debate.
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66 mins: Dare I say it but this has all got a little dull now. Result’s a foregone conclusion, Spurs look relaxed and confident and Man Utd look broken and dispirited.
63 mins: Son is fouled, awkwardly, by Bailly, who might have caught the back of his leg with his studs. Bailly is booked.
62 mins: Spurs build well from the back again, winning a throw in an attacking position when Bailly sloppily runs it out of play. The visitors continue to knock it about for some minutes before Ndombele is dispossessed by Rashford but the United break comes to nothing.
59 mins: As Martin Tyler points out on Sky, what is it in the Manchester water at the moment that compels its teams to concede five at home on Sunday evenings.
57 mins: Ndombele is next to take a pot shot, high and wide from 30 yards. He’s done his cause no harm today though.
55 mins: “Hope Lamela being taken off is a punishment for that performance, as a Spurs fan,” writes Esther Green. “But listening to Souness was like that toe-curling moment when your UKIP voting uncle goes off on one at Christmas dinner.”
55 mins: So have Spurs, again. Kane cutting in but firing harmlessly wide of De Gea’s right-hand post.
53 mins: I should state for the record that Manchester United have recorded an effort at goal, Shaw’s free-kick headed way over by Pogba.
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Goal! Man Utd 1-5 Spurs (Aurier, 51)
51 mins: Slick and brilliant from Spurs – four swift passes and Aurier’s found in space on the right-hand side of the area, and he has the space to spank it low into the far corner.
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47 mins: Fernandes was notably and uncharacteristically anonymous before the break so no surprise he’s gone off though the creative outlets have scarcely improved.
Quieter start to this half anyhow.
Peep!
46mins: Spurs get the second half under way. Fernandes and Matic are off, Fred and McTominay on for United, Lamela off for Moura for Spurs, though many will say he should have been long gone
@tomdaviesE17 Lads, it's Spurs.
— Sylfest Muldal (@smuldal) October 4, 2020
“Why does Kane get all the accolades and focus?” says Mark Cassidy. “Son is the star.” True. They’re twice as good with him in their side. But some harsher words for one of his fellow attackers. “Sticking your elbow in a player’s throat and then collapsing to the ground when they retaliate with a light slap is really smart tactic from Mourinho/Lamela,” adds Brian Kitt.
Graeme Souness is fuming about this too, if that’s any consolation, though he’s laced it with all manner of guff about “players from Latin countries” being more prone to such skulduggery, unlike the Stout Yeoman Brits who, to a man, are Not That Type Of Player.
My inbox has been as peppered as Man United’s penalty area was in that first half, most focusing on United’s shambolic state rather than Spurs’ slick excellence. “I think the one saving grace for both OGS and Ed Woodward is that there are no fans in the stadium to see this,” writes Graeme Thorn. “The negative chants would be deafening by now.”
Surely it goes higher up than that. The fact is the club has owners that aren’t that fussed by any of this. Glazernomics is a demonstrable failure.
Half-time: Man Utd 1-4 Spurs
I need a bit of a power lie-down after that. Tottenham are rampant here.
45 mins +2 : United win a corner, Maguire’s header is blocked, and Spurs clear.
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45 mins + 1: Kane is given a free header to attack from the corner but he flicks it wide. He should have done better, perhaps, but he’s been excellent this half.
45 mins: Spurs playing keepball at the minute, until they work it wide for Aurier, who skims a venomous shot from the right wide, and it took a deflection.
Three added minutes.
43 mins: Maguire wastes another attack with a careless ball into touch on the left. Imagine the mood inside the ground if fans were there.
42 mins: Pogba’s strength wins a free-kick after three defenders gang up on him but Shaw’s subsequent delivery is overhit.
40 mins: United attack! Purposefully from Rashford in a central area, but he plays it wide to Wan-Bissaka whose ball in is but ua weak bobble.
38 mins: It’s hard to see how Edinson Cavani is the precise answer to this.
Goal! Man Utd 1-4 Spurs
37 mins: It’s a rout. Sissoko plays Aurier down the right, who slides it across the area for Son, darting in at the near post to glide the most delicate of angled finishes past De Gea into the opposite corner. Delightful attacking, woeful defending.
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34 mins: Going back to the penalty, it looked kind of soft, and Lamela seems to have started it with a push, but Martial gave him a pretty firm and purposeful slap back.
31 mins: “Scabby from Man United” according to Gary Neville, an insult I’ve not used in the context of my own football team but might well do now
Goal! Man Utd 1-3 Tottenham (Kane)
30 mins: United are caught out again, inside their own area, Bailly robbed, Son playing it across the area for Kane to welly home
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29 mins: If it’s any consolation, that Spurs corner came to nothing.
Sending off: Martial
Manchester United are down to 10. There was some kind of melee after that corner was conceded, involving Martial and Lamela, who went down as they were tussling at the near post. It’s all careering out of control for the hosts here
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28 mins: More carnage as first Reguilon and then Ndombele try their luck with fierce shots into the mixer. Corner again.
27 mins: Spurs go close again, and again Kane is the creator playing in Aurier who cuts in from the right before his shot is palmed away by De Gea. Another attack follows, and Lamela sees a shot deflected wide from close range.
25 mins: Fernandes floats a lovely diagonal ball to the far post for Rashford but Aurier does well to head out for a throw, but Man Utd come again until Maguire is dispossessed and a long ball is played forward for Son, who looks odds-on to make it 3-1 but makes an uncharacteristic mess of his first touch. A squandered chance
23 mins: Greenwood goes close. Surrounded by four defenders on the edge of the area he wriggles clear of all of them to find space for a shot that skims just wide of Lloris’s left-hand post.
21 mins: United pressing a bit more now, and Greenwood finds some space 20 yards out but his shot is muffled by a deflection and ends in Lloris’s arms.
20 mins: Rashford hits the post! Reaching a fine through ball, he beats Aurier and sends a skidding shot against the upright, though the flag was up for offside.
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19 mins: The free-kick is headed clear and eventually ends in the arms of Lloris.
18 mins: Martial runs at Sanchez inside the box again, gets the better of him again initially but Spurs recover this time until a free-kick is conceded 25 yards out on the left.
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17 mins: Lamela robs Pogba midway inside the United half, but United regroup to press Spurs back. Reguilon eventually gets down the left to send in a low cross that De Gea gathers.
15 mins: Spurs look that bit crisper and controlled in possession at the moment in what is otherwise a pretty helter-skelter game. Kane is everywhere.
“The opening minutes of this fixture will be featured in the upcoming book “How Not to Play Football,” quips Mary Waltz.
14 mins: Lamela’s kick wide n the right is charged down and United break through Martial but Ndombele regains possession from Matic on the edge of the Spurs area
13 mins: Kane forages again, teeing up Lamela before he’s forced back. Spurs win a free-kick after the ball is belted into Luke Shaw’s midriff. Here we go.…
11 mins: And breathe. Much though I find assist statistics superfluous, the sheer creative potency of Kane of late is a thing of wonder.
8 mins: This was top-notch attacking interplay from Spurs here, Kane sliding in Son, who bursts beyond the back line on the left to clip it into the opposite corner. Cagey, tactical chess, this eh.
Goal! Man Utd 1-2 Spurs (Son, 7)
This is ridiculous.
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6 mins: after good work by Shaw, Greenwood takes a low potshot from 20 yards but Lloris is down comfortably behind it
Goal! Man Utd 1-1 Spurs (Ndombele 4)
Absurd stuff! a throw into the box causes havoc among Maguire and Bailly who can’t handle Ndombele’s rumbustious presence and his deflected shot finds the corner.
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3 mins: What a daft start from Spurs – United showed good intent down the left, and Martial was deftly played in behind Spurs back line but that was basics from Sanchez, barging into Martial like that.
Goal! Man Utd 1-0 Tottenham (Fernandes 2pen)
Ninety seconds in, and Crisis Club United are ahead, as Fernandes effortlessly rolls his kick into the corner
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Penalty to Man Utd!
An early United raid and Sanchez clumsily brings down Martial as he zips in from the left
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Peep!
United get us underway, kicking towards the east stand, after the customary knee-take.
The teams are on their way out …
Jose Mourinho talks, on a very important matter: He genuinely though “Gary” was short for “Gareth” and that was why he addressed the England manager Southgate thus the other day. “I apologised to him and I want to make that public.” Glad that’s cleared up.
Meanwhile, Stephen Carr (presumably not the former Spurs full-back) emails to say: “I’m going to stick my neck out here and say that this afternoon’s game is going to be the complete and utter opposite of Leeds - City.”
A bit of pre-match chatter, from Solskjær and Rashford: “We have to break them down cleverly enough,” says Solskjær, “and they’ve got Son back who’s one of the best players in the league at running in behind.” As for Cavani: “I can’t say anything before a deal is done, my mind is on the game
Rashford says United need to take more risks, and it’s important to go into the international break in good spirits with a win behind them.
In the Sky studio, G-Nev and Patrice Evra maintain the critical tune by querying the planning process - or lack of - in moving for Cavani, and the omission of Van de Beek for Pogba.
Back on a nostalgia tip, here’s some wise counsel from one of our regulars:
If you fancy a bit more nostalgia @tomdaviesE17, the World Cup Panini Football Collection 1970-2018 is a wallow in glorious kits and dodgy haircuts (and so much more) - https://t.co/nFoWrW4sJG
— Gary Naylor (@garynaylor999) October 4, 2020
Now you’re talking. In fact, I’m still three short to complete España 82 if someone could help a brother out.
A perhaps tone-setting first email. “Still no league start for van de Beek...” harrumphs Robert Lin. “Is Ole actively trying to get sacked?”
This level of pre-match discontent can only mean one thing: a reverse-jinx and the Reds win at a canter.
In these dystopian, digital football-watching times, you’re going to want a dose of English football’s past at its most eccentric. In which case, tuck right into this gallery:
Arsenal have beaten Sheffield United 2-1, braving a late Blades’ fightback after a fine David McGoldrick goal, while Fulham are still pointless after losing 0-1 at Wolves.
And an eye-catching scoreline involving Fulham’s west London rivals Brentford too, the Bees tossing away a 2-0 lead at home to Preston to go down 2-4.
Arsenal’s women have won too, 3-1 against Bristol City.
The teams!
Son is back for Spurs, Bailly in for Lindelöf for the hosts
Manchester United: De Gea; Wan-Bissaka, Bailly, Maguire, Shaw, Pogba, Matic, Greenwood, Fernandes, Rashford, Martial. Subs: Lindelöf, Mata, Lingard, Fred, Henderson, Can de Beek, McTominay
Tottenham: Lloris; Aurier, Sanchez, Dier, Reguilon, Sissoko, Hojbjerg, Ndombele, Lamela, Kane, Son. Subs: Doherty, Alderweireld, Winks, Hart, Alli, Lucas Moura, Davies.
Referee: Anthony Taylor (Cheshire)
Arsenal have found another gear in the second half against Sheffield United. They’re two-up and cruising. Let Tom Bassam tell you more.
Pre-match reading: Our resident tactics guru Jonathan Wilson runs a critical eye over Man Utd’s current state here:
While Eric Dier talks h*ndball and more, here:
Preamble
Afternoon everyone. What to make of this one then? Two heavyweight-ish sides about which it’s hard to divine whether they’re very good this season. Manchester United’s unconvincing early performances and seemingly confused transfer window have done little to muffle the mumblings of those who wonder whether the club have got any sort of plan. The move to sign Edinson Cavani, formidable forward though he is and has been, has more than a whiff of the Zlatan or Larsson cameos at Old Trafford. And the Bruno Fernandes/Mason Greenwood love-in period of high summer suddenly seems very distant.
José Mourinho meanwhile returns to Old Trafford boasting Gareth Bale and Sergio Reguilon as recent arrivals. Bale is unlikely to figure today but Reguilon should, and has already shown his promise. Tottenham have had a curious season so far, schooled by Everton first off before outplaying Southampton and Newcastle only to be denied victory against the latter by that handball kerfuffle about which all opinions have now been officially exhausted and are thus prohibited. And they’ve reached the quarter-finals of the League Cup without winning a game over 90 minutes, as well as the Europa League group stage. Busy, busy, busy.
Ole Gunnar Solskjær’s side won this fixture last season, 2-1, condemning Mourinho to his first loss as Spurs manager before United somehow scrambled a draw from a sub-par performance at an empty Tottenham Hotspur Stadium in June.
It’ll be an intriguing one. Don’t go anywhere. Kick off 4.30pm BST.