The Champions League table after Tuesday, with games to follow on Wednesday.

Here’s Sid Lowe’s report from Madrid. There will be further reaction to follow.

So much for a reaction, a rebellion: instead, there was a kind of resignation, a sense that this is just their reality: a game that began badly, barely got better, and finished even worse. Even the late red card for Leny Yoro at 1-0 which can be offered up in mitigation may not be really; this isn’t what United are supposed to be.

It’s fair to say Ashley Young and Wayne Rooney are not amused by the Lisandro comments, suggesting he’s gone off the reservation by saying what he did. Next question: will he play at Leeds?

Michael Carrick on Lisandro’s outburst: “I haven’t seen it. After a game like this you come here to try and get something from the game and you are disappointed and can be emotional. I have not seen it so I don’t think it is the right time.

“We all care and show that in different ways but now is the time to be together and work through.”

More from Tielemans: ““It is very hard to say after a defeat that there is positives. We just have to work hard to keep working and keep trusting in our structure. We have to keep working, keep trusting each other and be together on this.”

Youri Tielemans is asked about Lisandro’s comments: “I have no comment about that.”

“The only thing that’s going to get us back into it is to get a few wins.”

Full-times in the Champions League

• Atletico Madrid 2-0 Manchester United

• Galatasaray 1-4 Barcelona

• Inter Milan 3-4 Club Brugge

• RB Leipzig 1-0 PSV

• Viking 3-3 Bayern Munich

• Villarreal 3-1 Napoli

• Arsenal 3-0 Lille

• Lens 0-2 Sporting

• Sabah 2-0 Slavia Prague

A rather easier night for Arsenal.

90+3 min: Another United chance that goes begging. Zirkzee deliberates when the ball comes his way via an error, and then Cunha shoots on goal. Oblak makes another save. Again, better execution required from United. Their finishing all season has been poor, scratchy.

90 min: Five minutes added on for United to suffer through. Atletico are happy to pass the ball around. This one is done, stick a fork in it, referee.

88 min: Le Normand replaces Simeone Jnr and is almost immediately booked. Things happen quickly in this game.

86 min: The ball is in Atletico’s half most of the time at this point but United look incapable of getting through. They had the chances, but did not take them. Each of them had a high tariff of difficulty but a good team takes them. United are not a good team at present.

85 min: Robin Le Normand, the medieval knight, is set to come on for Atletico.

83 min: On to Leeds for United; it does not get any easier for Carrick. Leeds gave Arsenal quite the game on Saturday and United’s physical capabilities are still in question.

81 min: Maguire’s arrival is followed by a corner and an awful lot of pushing in the box. The corner comes to nothing and Mason Mount has to chase back, and win a foul from his chaser.

80 min: The game lost for United, off go Heaven and Bruno, and on come Cunhaa and Maguire.

78 min: Joshua Keeling speaks for a few when he says: “I’m sorry but that is an absolute disgrace of a decision. That is not even a foul, never mind a red card. Goodness me, what a joke.”

77 min: That makes it tougher for United. Just when they had put out the fires of Alvarez and Baena, that happens.

75 min: Some confusion there. It looked harsh, a coming together. But, say the officials, it counts as a denial of a goalscoring opportunity, and so lands the first red of Leny Yoro’s career.

71 min: Two more Atleti changes: Baena and Alvarez off, Lookman and Hjulmand on. The latter was long linked with United when Ruben Amorim was manager. Sporting friends.

70 min: Fernandes strikes the crossbar, and from a short corner, the ball exchanged with Amad and then drilled over Oblak’s head and back out.

68 min: Fernandes has gone into the position that Tielemans vacated. And he gets a a chance from that central position. United continue to push forward. Mbeumo has gone out right, as Zirkzee goes to the centre.

66 min: United make changes: Zirkzee, Mount and Amad on, Tielemans, Baleba and Rashford off. Baleba was the superior performer of the departed trio.

65 min: Baena dances and cavorts in the box, and then digs out a vicious shot. Lammens just about holds on to the ball.

64 min: Nice pass from Baleba, and Bruno hits a cross first time, aimed at Mbeumo but Romero cuts it off. Here come the United changes.

63 min: Llorente, such a warrior, steps in stop Tielemans. What changes can Carrick make? Fans of Boro tell us that was often slow to make them there. An extra spark would help though that bench looks short of anything remotely electric.

61 min: Atleti subs: Lee and Barrios off, and on come Jonathan David and Marc Pubill.

60 min: Feels like a game where both teams are waiting for the chance to counter. Though Baena carries a threat even when there’s heavy traffic and fires a shot that will not beat Lammens.

58 min: Ooof. Tielemans, at last, finds space, and his pass is a belter. Bruno waits for the bounce, it’s there to be hit, but it’s stabbed wide. Bruno Fernandes at his best buries thar.

56 min: Chris Greenhough gets in touch: “I don’t know what’s more deflating: United’s sluggish performances so far this year, or the fact that the Wilcoxes, Brailsfords, and Berradas will coast through the whole shambles, unquestioned and untarnished. In any other job, etc. etc...”

So does Tim Stappard: “Of course Carrick will lose his job. They all do. The question is whether Wilcox and Berrada do. He also definitely doesn’t have a clue what his best side and formation is.

55 min: So close for Atleti. Great ball from Barrios, and Alvarez scuffs his volley off the post. United strike it lucky once more. There’s real quality, and they will get punished if they keep switching off.

53 min: Santos is sat deepest of the United midfield, holding while Baleba steps forward. United are back in the groove they all too briefly found in the first half. Llorente eventually robs Tielemans who has struggled for impact in his more advanced position.

52 min: Romero steps out to rob Baleba, and then Simeone wins a foul from a Rashford challenge. The United player gets the first on-field booking of the night.

51 min: Good, hard tackle by Baleba in midfield. Just what United have been missing? It will help if he can keep that up.

49 min: Rashford bobs and weaves but Simeone Jnr steps across to win the free-kick. He’s a chip off the old block, learning all the tricks.

48 min: Alvarez receives a long ball, and Martinez comes across to tackle his international teammate. Bruno then wins a foul. The United fans can be heard, perhaps for the first time tonight.

Matthew Lysaght gets in touch: “Surprised that nobody has mentioned Johnny 5 at the back for Atleti. Waiting for him to come alive perhaps? Or to suffer a short circuit in the second half? Also, Ayden Heaven not wearing 17 is a travesty.”

England’s Lionesses are cruising through their World Cup playoff. Ukraine beckon.

Richard Hirst with a first-half hat-trick: “The goal may have been ruled out but Atletico are definitely Knockin’ on Heaven’s Door.”

Kevin “Bloody” Wilson: “It does look to be going the same way it did for Amorim, Solskjaer, Mourinho - it’s not a question of if Carrick will lose his job, it’s when.”

Half-times in the Champions League

• Galatasaray 1-1 Barcelona

• Inter Milan 1-1 Club Brugge

• RB Leipzig 0-0 PSV

• Viking 2-0 Bayern Munich

• Villarreal 2-1 Napoli

• Arsenal 0-0 Lille

Earlier full-times

• Lens 0-2 Sporting

• Sabah 2-0 Slavia Prague

45 min: Some relief for United. Heaven was involved in that, Simeone has clearly targeted the weakness down the United defensive flanks. They will be relieved to go in just 1-0 down.

42 min: Baena and Grimaldo are quite the threat down the left, keeping Diogo Dalot busy. Baena almost pulls off a one-two with Alvarez but Dalot reads it and is able to stop that attack. Another will surely follow. And it does, with Alvarez firing over.

40 min: Bruno, at last, gets forward, off the right but is slow to get the ball in. Eventually, the ball goes back to Heaven, who is not the player United want to be attacking in the final third.

38 min: That talk of improvement in United? Well, that’s going flat. Atleti are stepping it up. United have lost their previous capability of holding possession.

37 min: A booking. Not for Andrey Santos for his tackle on Cardoso, but for Diego Simeone for waving a fake yellow. The great man has still got it.

36 min: United back in numbers, and holding their shape. If it wasn’t for that early calamity this might be classed as a mature European performance. But it’s a big if, isn’t it?

34 min: Leighton Taylor is a man and not a boy, presumably: “Has nobody acknowledged the incredible Chesney Hawkesalikery of the goal scorer? It’s amazing he is maintaining that level of volume in his hair so far into the game.”

33 min: Heaven called into action to stop Lee and then Llorente as Atletico try to pile forward in numbers. This time, United hold firm. Better from Heaven. United won’t want too much Heaven in action.

31 min: Richard Hirst has been back on: “Time to switch the spotlight away from the unfortunate Heaven? Given his predilection for kamikaze tackles and general mindlessness I’m surprised we haven’t heard more about a certain former Spurs central defender,: ‘wherefore art thou Rome(r)o?’”

He and Martinez were Argentina’s gruesome twosome at the summer’s World Cup.

30 min: Bruno, for it is he, lofts in a free-kick that does little to trouble Oblak. A waste, in fact. It gives chance for Barrios to go on the burst, and he wins a corner.

29 min: Some frustration for the home team and their fans, with United doing better in midfield. Bruno Fernandes still yet to see much of the ball, mind.

28 min: This has been better from United, they have responded well to going behind. Baleba leaves a reducer on Baena, and that might help them along. Baleba escapes a booking, too.

26 min: Close for Atleti. Martinez, on Barrios, makes one of his injudicious fouls and that sets up a chance for an Atletico free-kick. Grimaldo takes with his left, and swings it off the angle.

25 min: Baleba gets a good chance from the corner but the angle is tight and he cannot beat the goalkeeper.

24 min: Big chance for United. Baleba wins the ball, and then Mbeumo and Tielemans swap passes, the forward shoots, and Oblak has to make the save.

22 min: United continue to have more of the ball. But Atletico’s counters are the danger and Cardozo’s ball over the top is aimed for Alvarez who seems to give up the chase.

20 min: Buddy Holly Eddie Cochran fan Tim Wood gets in touch: “If United’s left back is struggling, the centre backs need to keep close to support him. Ideally ensuring there are never more than Three Steps to Heaven.”

Apologies, got my ill-fated, early rock n’roll heroes mixed up there.

19 min: The home team, with that lead, are playing patiently. And then going vertical, as they say, just when United are sitting back expecting a slow passing move. This is a different Atletico to that we have been used to over the Simeone years, all 15 of them.

17 min: Atletico go long towards Alvarez, and Yoro uses his pace to close down the danger. United’s three attempts against Atleti’s single shot, and yet the score is in the Madrid team’s favour.

15 min: United have improved. From a low bar, admittedly. It’s the defending that’s let them down. Baleba is fouled in his own box, having not spent too much time on the ball so far.

14 min: Bruno Fernandes is coming off the flanks, and is roaming. He’s yet to see much of the ball, it has to be said. Martinez drifts a ball over and Rashford just can’t get a connection.

12 min: And United go close. They should have scored, too. Mbeumo shoots, and it lools likely to head in, only for Oblak’s leg to get the slightest of touches. Atleti clear the resultant corner.

11 min: Llorente, with real strength, cuts off a Rashford run. United, at least, have mounted an attack.

10 min: Alvarez finds the time and space to take the ball down, and soon enough Baena has the ball in that inside left position. Over comes Santos whose role seems mostly to have become dropping back into that role.

9 min: Richard Hirst is in: “Heaven knows he’s miserable now.” So is Peter Oh: “A Heavenly deflection for Atleti and a hellish start for the Red Devils.”

Yes, yes, very good.

8 min: United yet to string more than two passes together? Certainly feels that’s the case.

7 min: Baena buzzes forward again, and Grimaldo underlaps him to get in a shot that is not much of a test for Lammens. Next, Santos runs back to cover the danger of that man Baena.

6 min: No Harry Maguire for United. For once, he was not on the crime scene, and so Yoro has been given his chance. It will have to improve from here. In the meantime, United yet to put much together.

4 min: Leaving Baena, a player who could hardly have been unknown to United, to run free like that was poor. Feels like United were trying to get into shape and then forgot they had to chase and press. What a player Baena is, by the way.

2 min: That goal came in 53 seconds. It was, frankly, a total mess for United, Baena allowed so much freedom, as was Barrios. Heaven could not get across in time.

The minute of reflection for Koke’s mum is observed. This would have been his 750th appearance but he has been left out on compassionate grounds.

Back to now, and the teams are out, and the Champions League anthem is ringing out, and there’s a few jeers. City fans in? The music dies off and then there’s quite the atmosphere in the Metropolitano.

The teams met in 1991 in the old European Cup Winners’ Cup, here’s the teams from the second leg. Atleti won 4-1 on aggregate.

United: Gary Walsh, Paul Parker, Steve Bruce, Clayton Blackmore, Neil Webb, Ryan Giggs, Bryan Robson, Mike Phelan, Mark Robins, Brian McClair, Mark Hughes

Atlético: Abel Resino, Juanito, Solozábal, Tomás, Toni Muñoz Donato, Moya, Bernd Schuster, Vizcaíno, Futre, Manolo

When last they met. Ralf Rangnick, there’s a blast from the recent past, but a forgotten name already.

Peadar de Burca gets in touch: “This is one of those games, John, where you don’t tune it to see free-flowing joga bonita, dancing on the ceiling football, but because there’s a whiff in the air, a whiff of wounded sheep, the wolves are closing in and by cuss it’s hard to pull your eyes away. The beginning of the end for Carrick...?”

In August, in a friendly in Sweden, United and Atletico played a friendly, United winning 2-1. Who came on in the 82nd minute? None other than JJ Gabriel? Whatever happened to him?

Josh Keeling also has his theories: “I reckon it might be a diamond with Fernandes behind a front two. Or maybe Fernandes as a false nine. Let’s see.”

Whisper it, but Bruno has not been playing well this season. He did not complete a pass for a long time against Tottenham, and there’s been that hint from the international break that he’s been playing with an injury.

Sean McHale gets in touch: “Looks like Bruno at false nine, John. I think a good shout as they’ve been far too open in a de facto 4-4-2. And Tielemans not great in a two.”

Carrick said that we would have to “wait and see” when asked about Bruno, so that suggests Sean may be right there.

Diego Simeone made mention of Julian Alvarez in his pre-match duties: “Well, he’s happy because I’ve been able to speak to him a lot and I’ve really focussed on Julian Alvarez as the person, not just the player and I think we’ve reached reached a very good point with him.“

Michael Carrick speaks to the Amazon UK broadcast: “It’s where we want to be. Got a really good history of this competition and that’s where we want to challenge ourselves and test ourselves. you know, we’ve worked hard to be here. We want a reaction You know, we haven’t had the results that we wanted, that we expected. Fine margins in some of them games and it can go both ways, but the reality is exactly where we are now and this is a fresh opportunity.

“I think we want a get control without the ball and we want a lot more control with it whatever get. I think we’ve got a bit of flexibility. I think we need to defend as a whole team. But you have proved that we’re capable of doing that and we got to get back to that.”

For Atleti, Koke missing, as mentioned previously, but Julian Alvarez, who wanted to leave the club in the summer, is a starter. His last start was against Liverpool, so this is his first home start of the season.

That United team looks like Youri Tielemans is being pushed forward and Bruno Fernandes will be playing off the flanks. Marcus Rashford returns to the starting lineup. Baleba added some energy to United on Saturday against Tottenham though his shooting was a little wayward. Is that Dalot or Yoro at left-back? Would guess Yoro. Andrey Santos for the double pivot, too.

Michael Carrick was not exactly bullish – he never is – but he remains publicly calm under pressure.

We hoped for a lot more, we expected a lot more, and we are where we are. I was aware that, winning as many as we had [last season], it was going to get more challenging, stickier. I understand that when it is not going well there is a real clamour and a feeling that it’s a disaster, that it’s all wrong and that everything needs to be changed. I kind of get that, but that’s not our mindset and it’s certainly not mine. You have to deal with things and overcome them. That is what I did throughout my career. We have to accept reality but we are building and you can’t lose sight of the journey.

It feels a long time since Manchester United played Sabah on their opening group-stage match.

There will be 3,750 United fans in the stands. They have not had much to cheer this season.

Atlético Madrid captain Koke will not play tonight after his mother died.

There will be a moment of silence before the game at the Metropolitano Stadium, and the home team’s players will wear black armbands. Koke’s brother, Borja Resurrección, is an assistant coach of Atletico’s under-19 squad. The club’s flag outside the Metropolitano is flying at half-mast