It was another so-so performance from England, but an even worse one from Australia, and on this edition of The Ashes podcast, Dave Farrar is joined by Rob Smyth, Geoff Lemon and MSN Sport's Lizzy Ammon for a look back on all the drama of the fourth Test at Chester-le-Street.

Also up for discussion: Darren Lehmann's fiery press conference, Silicongate, and the curious case of Monty Panesar.

Will Australia come out fighting at The Oval next week, or will England humiliate them further? Join us again on Monday 26 August.